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#45922
Re: Corp Bookmarking Miners 8 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 33
Awesome! Looks like it should work well. Thanks for sharing too!
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#45926
Re: Corp Bookmarking Miners 8 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 10
So now we have a Looter that can warp to corporate BM's. Miners that can jet and create BM's with custom names. A looter that can clean up bad BM's...

I just came up with an Idea to combine all of the above for an Orca looter/booster. Mainly because this is the way I mine with the fleet when I play live.
-Orca pilot warps to BM. Checks for roids. Drops a Bookmark "Dr. Allcome" Then starts boost modules. Switches to Containers tab and waits for cans to pull in.
-Miners see "Dr Allcome" and warp to Corp BM, and do their thing. They won't need to drop BM's though.
-Orca pilot once full can warp to POS and drop loot then return to BM.
-OR Orca Pilot can jet the ore, drop a "Freighter Call" BM and a freighter can Hot drop in on the Orca BM scoop all the loot and take it to POS.

This should be fun to work on. See you in 3 weeks when I get done lol
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#45931
Re: Corp Bookmarking Miners 8 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 33
I've wanted to make something like this for a long time, but recently found something bigger. Let me offer you my thoughts and some constructive criticism.

  • How do you keep miners from mining the same roids and significantly reducing yield?
  • ....Each miner has BM in different part of belt: left, right, center. Then they would mine towards each other.
  • ....Having them use T2 crystals, each mine one roid type, would allow you to quadruple the number of miners in high sec. (Requires knowing the BM index.)

  • How does the Orca pilot know when to go to the next belt? Does Orca check for no roids or missing roid type (T2)? If using T2 crystals, I'd recommend having the miners tell the Orca they've run out of roids (via IniWrite/IniRead in shared folder) and to move on to the next belt so that you don't have to manually update the Orca with the roid types to monitor.
  • ....You could have the Orca be the bodyguard for the whole belt so that the miners don't have to miss cycle times due to fighting. (Only really beneficial if miners are using mining drones.)

WOAH! I just realized that you don't need the BM index, though it would make things a whole lot simpler. You have code that already looks for "Approach" in each BM. The Orca could determine the BM index it's at that way, IniWrite the BM index to shared file, miners get and warp the the BM index pulled from the Ini file... I can't believe I didn't think of that before, LOL! That would allow 12 miners with T2 crystals in a single belt without them mining the same roids!

I'm so glad you decided to jump in and develop solutions for yourself. That is why I decided to share Corp Bookmarking Miners, to show others that it can be easy and rewarding. (Sounds like you've caught the programming bug like us! Congrats.) Let me know if you want any tips/pointers.

PS: If only the Orca and miners could mine with those drones...
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#45934
Re: Corp Bookmarking Miners 8 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 10
"How do you keep miners from mining the same roids and significantly reducing yield? "
Don't really care myself. The reduced yield would be made up for by clear cutting the whole belt. I think.

"Each miner has BM in different part of belt: left, right, center. Then they would mine towards each other."
This would work well I think. But would take multiple bookmarks for each belt, in a 20 belt system that could be 60 BM's. not a good way to go. Plus when Orca drops the "Dr Allcome" they ALL warp to the Orca. So belt BM's are obsolete.

"How does the Orca pilot know when to go to the next belt?"
Do a roid check, Use the "asteroid" tab, if nothing is there. Move to next belt.

" If using T2 crystals, I'd recommend having the miners tell the Orca they've run out of roids (via IniWrite/IniRead in shared folder) "
Problem with T2 crystal usage is there are 10 plagio 8 pyrox and 75 veldspar roids. The ones mining pyrox will warp away before the plagio dudes, and the only ones left are the veldspar miners. This costs far too much loss due to not an even amount of roids. Solution: take the less yield of base strip miners, and have miners mining Pyrox, Plagio, and Scordite. This way all the miners stay until the last drop of ore is pulled. No loss due to T2 mining problem, yes they can and will pull from the same roids sometimes, but I don't care.


"PS: If only the Orca and miners could mine with those drones..."
I saw your video on drone mining, and using the drone bay and launching drones from there. Awesome. There is also a new feature to the drone overview. You can put 5 combat drones in a group and set it as the default group. Since EP uses the key shortcut to launch drones for combat, once you set those drones up, they will launch by default. so when combat is over, drones get docked, then run the launch mining drones script. When you start combat, dock drones, then run FM, it will launch the default group of combat drones.

Sure it sounds easy. But that IS a huge project. For how much yield? and will it break the market? and will it draw too much attention?
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#45948
Re: Corp Bookmarking Miners 8 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 33
Let's say you have 4 miners and a roid takes 5 cycles to pop. 3 miners get 50% yield. They have the exact same algorithm for which to mine next. Once they synchronize, they'll stay that way.

I'm not suggesting you to do drones. But they've brought in an extra 15% or more.
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#45962
Re: Corp Bookmarking Miners 8 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 10
I see what you are saying. I guess it will have to come down to actual play testing. Because pen and paper only goes so war with eve. Lots of variables.

I need to run some tests. 1 day 10 full hours for each test run and compare yields.
Control subject: All skills 5. Skiff 3xMLU. T2 Crystal strip miner. Michi's Implant ('cause I'm rich) Mining Plagio.
1. Stock Miner Script mining to Station = ???
2. Stock Miner Script mining to POS = ???
3. CorpBMV1 Miner dropping cans to a looter = ???

Run all that with 1 miner. Then run again with 6 miners all doing the same thing.

Meanwhile I am going to tackle the Drone script using what I learned over the last two days. Then run them all again with Drones. And compare yields.


Good times ahead.
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